The Rate for 2 Days is 175 Euro (from 12. – 14. September).
Reservation can be canceled up to 4 Weeks before arrival without any Charge, otherwise 90% of the fee are charged.
Parking is 18 Euro/Day.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THE HOTEL MAY BE BOOKED DUE TO A MEDICAL CONFERENCE HAPPENING IN THE AREA AT THE SAME TIME. PLEASE TRY ALTERNATE ARRANGEMENTS, AS LISTED BELOW
Cheaper Hotels in the City Center with better cancelling Conditions might be possible. ALLPLAN can also recommend the MotelOne, a quality low cost Hotel Chain ( https://www.motel-one.com/en/hotels/munich/ ). There are several of them still available in September.
Connection to Nemetschek House from the City by Public Transportation is excellent, Subway Station (Line “U2”, Station “Messestadt West”) is 5 Minutes Walk from the Office.
September 13th from 19:00-22:00 (basically open end)
Agenda(proposed/tentative – please propose other agenda items to Angel and Jeff prior to 01 SEPT 2018. Any attempt to add after that date will NOT be considered):
Thursday AM:
ISG business
IFC4 Certification updates – R. Steinmann
DTV 1.x refinement
Outstanding issues
Finalize ISG charter – Structure, mission, operations, etc.
Finalize IFC intent/use/scope documentation
Communications
bSI business
bSI Product Strategic Planning initiative update – G. Schleusner
bSI Room/Project/Summit updates
Utilizing new web technologies
End user presentations:
Presentation about the advancements in IFC/BIM research from TUM (Technical University Munich) – S. Markic
Thursday PM / Friday:
MSG business
IFC+ development – T. Liebich/M. Weise
Workshops (planned to be the majority of our time)
IFC5 – Proposals from ISG for changes, additions, enhancements
IFC open Toolkit – Where to Begin? Bootstrapping and moving forward
Hello Jeffrey. I would like to discuss 3 new topics during the meeting:
1/ How to setup internal test rounds to enhance interoperability between systems ? STEP and JT Implementor forums have regular test rounds and dedicated infrastructure for that. May be we could setup something light to test and enhance the IFC4 functionalities like tessellation, AdvancedBRep, Alignments.
2/ IFC files are monolithic. I have received from a customer a file which is 2.6Gb large … ! I think it is time to consider multi-files exchanges (IFC model defined in several files: one or several for the structure + one file for each ShapeRepresentation). This is available in STEP for a long time and was introduced to solve big data issues (exchange of a plane or a car).
3/ Instance/Reference: I have identified at least 35 ways to describe two identical products in IFC (2 windows with same geometry and same properties). ObjectTypes can be used but they can be used also for describing families. I suggest to work on a recommendation.
We have discussed IFC file split some times and would be nice to move forward in this.
I agree the simplest way is to have one master file wit elements and all relations and allow geometry representation be an external resource.
As starting suggestion I would suggest entities like following:
ENTITY IfcExternalRepresentationItem
SUBTYPE OF (IfcGeometricRepresentationItem);
Location : IfcExternalReference;
END_ENTITY;
ENTITY IfcExternalIfcRepresentationItem
SUBTYPE OF (IfcExternalRepresentationItem);
StepId : IfcInteger (Where reffered item is subtype of IfcGeometricRepresentation item)
END_ENTITY;
Some issues to solve are geometrical context (possibly master file should provide), points identity, BCF(?)
Hi, if we want to support split of files and use of external references from any instance of an IFC file, I would recommend to update to ISO 10303-21 ed. 3 - which has support for it (instead of creating an individual solution). Alternatively put more effort into supporting ifcXML (and using the built-in external reference mechanism of XML).
what was the outcome of the Model Setup discussion?
Are there any actions for Tokyo?
I’m still awating a template /style guide for final documentation.
Does ISG have any recommendations on techical issues such as time dependency (AU is planning on adopting after 2020), capturing reference points, caturing accuracy issues??
As I’m scheduled to talk about MSI on the final plenary at Tokyo, any ISG feedback would be welcome.
Hello Jeffrey.
I don’t have access to the ISG ShareFile. I tried to connect with my bsi-intranet login and forums.buildingsmart login but both failed.
Can you register me too ?
Thanks.
Jacques.
We need to work a bit more on this after Tokyo. Due to some unexpected circumstances, we need to figure out how to get the IfcDoc Tool end to work for this project. Please be patient.
In Tokyo, we can talk about the other issues. I’m optimistic we can get the vendors to support by 2020 timeframe. Getting the mvdXML process working will help.