# Finding stuff

**URL:** <https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/finding-stuff/5017>\
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**Created:** [November 8, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/finding-stuff/5017 "2023-11-08T21:27:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![agron](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.buildingsmart.org/agron/32/1158_2.png) [@agron](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/u/agron)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/finding-stuff/5017/1 "2023-11-08T21:27:56Z")

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Recently I had one question in a seminar about finding the correct information in the IFC structure.  
Personally, I am familiar with most of the entities and especially their enumerations, but what about people who are starting to discover this new realm and especially the non-English speakers?

I am familiar about the possibility to find out the type of Entity on the website, but what about their Enumerations? How does one find the correct entity with its enumeration? In some cases, the destination product lies not within the entity but rather in the level of its enumeration. In some cases, only by reading the description of that enumeration, the person could identify that it is the correct one. The name of the enumeration for the non-English speakers is not immediately self-explanatory.

Is there a way or a strategy to make the schema more available or better searchable up to the level of their enumerations? There is the list of TypeEnums, but the list is not flattened to be able to search the whole documentation.  
Any suggestions?

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**Author:** ![CarlosVasquez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@CarlosVasquez](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/u/CarlosVasquez)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/finding-stuff/5017/2 "2023-11-13T11:40:09Z")

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Not sure if it helps, but I had a similar question a few months ago:

> [@Is there a "database" with all the IFC entities and their corresponding psets/qto's?](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/is-there-a-database-with-all-the-ifc-entities-and-their-corresponding-psets-qtos/4390):
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> Hello! I’m doing a small project were it would be very handy to have a “database” (spreadsheet, webpage, even a text file would suffice!) where I could find IFC entities and all their corresponding psets (and/or Qtos), in one place. Without this, I have to navigate to each IFC entity’s page, search for the pset section, click on each pset link (e.g. “PSet\_BeamCommon”), and rinse and repeat for each entity type, which can be a bit tedious. Thanks in advance for the help! Carlos.

I tried the DDS IFC Schema Navigator recommended in one of the replies, and it is a fantastic tool for someone newer to the IFC structure. Accessing the enums of an entity is also just a click away once you have found the IFC entity you are interested in.

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**Author:** ![agron](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.buildingsmart.org/agron/32/1158_2.png) [@agron](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/u/agron)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/finding-stuff/5017/3 "2023-11-13T14:39:32Z")

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Hi @CarlosVasquez

thank you for your reply…  
navigating through the database and Psets would be still manageable, since one can open the bsI website and do a FindSearch. You get these in a list.  
But the Enumerations are found only in the level of the entity, which means that the entity should be opened, in order to see what enumeration does it have.

I was hoping to have an online database, where the users could search not only through the Entities and Psets, but all the way to the enumerations. It would be helpful if the search could encompass also the enumerations to get the best results. Sometimes the result lies in the enumeration and not in the entity.

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**Author:** ![stefkeB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.buildingsmart.org/stefkeb/32/1755_2.png) [@stefkeB](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/u/stefkeB)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/finding-stuff/5017/4 "2023-11-15T12:58:33Z")

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Rather than copying everything again in some database, the whole “live” documentation is now in a Github repository and has already a quite usable search. It seems only logic to look at expanding that search and stick to the single source of documentation for IFC.

> **[GitHub - buildingSMART/IFC4.3.x-development: Repository to collect updates to...](https://github.com/buildingSMART/IFC4.3.x-development)**
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> Repository to collect updates to the IFC4.3 Specification - GitHub - buildingSMART/IFC4.3.x-development: Repository to collect updates to the IFC4.3 Specification

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**Author:** ![daviddelven](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.buildingsmart.org/daviddelven/32/2384_2.png) [@daviddelven](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/u/daviddelven)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/finding-stuff/5017/5 "2023-12-14T21:26:07Z")

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I use [bsdd.buildingsmart.org](http://bsdd.buidlingsmart.org/) search engine:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/buildingsmart1/original/2X/3/31a67f8b2ff2907af3fae1de2b87bfcb507d31c4.png)

This way, you don’t need to know where that semantics lives, as long as the term you are using it is within the bSDD, whether through the IFC 4.3. terminology or other regional, local, or domain-related taxonomies, such as BIM classifications or Property Sets.

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**Author:** ![jeffersonbruno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9a140/32.png) [@jeffersonbruno](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/u/jeffersonbruno)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/finding-stuff/5017/6 "2024-03-12T05:58:57Z")

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Try DDS IFC Schema Navigator

> **Summary**
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