# bSI and GS1

**URL:** https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/bsi-and-gs1/4720
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**Created:** [April 19, 2023, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/bsi-and-gs1/4720 "2023-04-19T07:44:48Z")
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### Author: ![VladimirAlexiev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.buildingsmart.org/vladimiralexiev/32/2065_2.png) [@VladimirAlexiev](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/u/VladimirAlexiev)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2023, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/bsi-and-gs1/4720/1 "2023-04-19T07:44:48Z")

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(taken from  
[Bsdd access for products and classification standard / bsdd guid vs ifc guid - #22 by VladimirAlexiev](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/bsdd-access-for-products-and-classification-standard-bsdd-guid-vs-ifc-guid/1726/22))

Does anyone have info about cooperation between bSI and GS1 (the standard setting organization in transport and logistics)? Please post some links!  
Here are some:

- bSI: [The Digital Supply Chain in Built Environment (DSCiBE) Webinar 8th June 2020 on Vimeo](https://vimeo.com/429540481) : [8th workshop since the launch of this UG](https://www.buildingsmart.org/event/the-digital-supply-chain-in-built-environment-dscibe-online-workshop-8-30am-cest/).
- GS1: [Digital Supply Chains in the Built Environment – (DSCiBE) User Group](https://www.gs1.org/sites/default/files/digitalsupplychainsdatadrivencollaboration.pdf)
- Cobuilder: [About the Digital Supply Chains in Built Environment (DSCiBE) work group](https://cobuilder.com/en/about-the-digital-supply-chains-in-built-environment-dscibe-work-group/). Launched in March 2019
- Built faster, more efficient, and better – transformation of the construction industry  
Monday, 13 September 2021 at the GS1 Standards Event 2021. 12 presenters, 91 participants. Hosted by GS1 Construction WG

At GS1 central:

- [https://www.gs1.org/industries/technical-industries/construction](https://www.gs1.org/industries/technical-industries/construction)
- [GS1 standards in Construction - the Plant Room. In association with Fexillon. on Vimeo](https://vimeo.com/601975416)
- [https://www.gs1.org/sites/gs1/files/2021-12/digitizingconstruction\_whitepaper\_gs1\_bsi\_2021.pdf](https://www.gs1.org/sites/gs1/files/2021-12/digitizingconstruction_whitepaper_gs1_bsi_2021.pdf)
- [https://www.gs1.org/sites/default/files/digitalsupplychainsdatadrivencollaboration.pdf](https://www.gs1.org/sites/default/files/digitalsupplychainsdatadrivencollaboration.pdf) (DSCiBE)
- [https://www.gs1.org/sites/gs1/files/2022-06/asset\_management\_for\_hospitals\_industry\_insight\_bsi.pdf](https://www.gs1.org/sites/gs1/files/2022-06/asset_management_for_hospitals_industry_insight_bsi.pdf)
- [ISO/IEC CD 8506 - AIDC Application in Industrial Construction](https://www.iso.org/standard/83196.html)
- free training platform GS1 e-Academy

At GS1 Ireland:

- [GS1 for Construction and Facilities Management - GS1 Ireland](https://www.gs1ie.org/industries/construction-facilities-management/)
- [GS1 Standards for the Construction Sector - GS1 Ireland](https://www.gs1ie.org/industries/construction-facilities-management/standards/)
- [Construction & Facilities Management Blog - GS1 Ireland](https://www.gs1ie.org/industries/construction-facilities-management/latest-news-blog-articles/)
- [https://vimeo.com/710845774:](https://vimeo.com/710845774:) impressive!

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### Author: ![VladimirAlexiev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.buildingsmart.org/vladimiralexiev/32/2065_2.png) [@VladimirAlexiev](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/u/VladimirAlexiev)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2023, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/bsi-and-gs1/4720/2 "2023-04-19T08:29:54Z")

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@pipauwel, @jakob.beetz, @jakob-beetz, @berlotti, @MichelBohms  
Do you know of works or data integration for “transport/logistics + construction/maintenance”?  
It seems to me that enriching BIM/BMS data with GS1 identifiers is a great idea.  
Can we collaborate on this topic?

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### Author: ![artur\_tomczak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.buildingsmart.org/artur_tomczak/32/2632_2.png) [@artur\_tomczak](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/u/artur_tomczak)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2023, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/bsi-and-gs1/4720/3 "2023-04-19T10:43:56Z")

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One more link to the collection [buildingSMART and GS1 signed a Memorandum of Understanding to advance global standards in the construction sector - buildingSMART International](https://www.buildingsmart.org/buildingsmart-and-gs1-signed-a-memorandum-of-understanding-to-advance-global-standards-in-the-construction-sector/), even though it was some time ago already. BTW, the scope of GS1 is much bigger than transport and logistics.

The intention is to integrate GS1 and bSDD, but it is not yet achieved. Please share your ideas!

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### Author: ![VladimirAlexiev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.buildingsmart.org/vladimiralexiev/32/2065_2.png) [@VladimirAlexiev](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/u/VladimirAlexiev)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2023, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/bsi-and-gs1/4720/4 "2023-04-19T11:12:23Z")

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Michel Bohms wrote: Various initiatives in nl especially related to ETIM IDs/classifications.

To compare use google translate on: [Productclassificaties: waarom standaardisatie (zoals GS1 & ETIM) een goed idee is](https://www.ctac.nl/blog/productclassificaties-waarom-standaardisatie-zoals-gs1-etim-een-goed-idee-is/) (translation: [Product classifications: why standardization (such as GS1 & ETIM) is a good idea](https://www-ctac-nl.translate.goog/blog/productclassificaties-waarom-standaardisatie-zoals-gs1-etim-een-goed-idee-is/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp))

Etim is one of national “digiDeals” at: [Overzicht digiDeals | digiGO (mett.nl)](https://digigo.mett.nl/digideals/overzicht+digideals/default.aspx) (translation: [Overview digiDeal](https://digigo-mett-nl.translate.goog/digideals/overzicht+digideals/default.aspx?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp)): Roll-out of ETIM+ in the construction industry (Pitch: Hedy van Opzeeland)

Also deal for “transport sector” over there.

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My comments:

- “PAB2 and BMEcat file formats are widely used to exchange ETIM data.”
  - I know ECLASS, which is based on the PLIB standard and ECLASS product catalogs on BMEcat

- “The BMEcat format also supports ETIM-MC, an extension that makes it possible to generate 3D objects for use in Building Information Modeling (BIM).”
  - That’s interesting! PLIB has some features to represent geometry aspects, but I didn’t think it can capture BIM geometry
  - I now browsed around ETIM and I see SVG and PDF component drawings…

- I’m not sure against which GS1 standard ETIM is being compared

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### Author: ![VladimirAlexiev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.buildingsmart.org/vladimiralexiev/32/2065_2.png) [@VladimirAlexiev](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/u/VladimirAlexiev)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2023, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/bsi-and-gs1/4720/5 "2023-04-19T11:22:28Z")

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> scope of GS1 is much bigger than transport and logistics

Yes:

- Tracing and tracking of any object (product, container, asset), document (invoice, PO, certificate) or person. Within companies and other locations (plant, warehouse, port, ship berth, gate, door, etc).
- Also representing product characteristics (GS1 Voc and older data standards).
- Resolving barcodes and RFIDs to web links and RDF master data (Digital Links).
- Product classification and some characteristics (GPC).

> The intention is to integrate GS1 and bSDD

That’s very interesting! Another topic to discuss at LDAC.  
I think we also need to consider:

- Product description standards (PLIB, Parcelized POM, BMEcat) and catalogs (ECLASS, ETIM, IEC CDD)
- OTL and Specification libraries (@MichelBohms)

BTW, what is our involvement with GS1: Ontotext was active in

- the semantic rendition of GS1 EPCIS (JSON-LD, ontology, SHACL, examples JSON-\>JSONLD-\>Turtle)
- mapping of GS1 identifiers to (extended) GS1 Voc classes.
