# bSDD -- GUIDs at the field (property) level

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**Created:** [October 17, 2018, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/bsdd-guids-at-the-field-property-level/362 "2018-10-17T00:54:22Z")\
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> [@havard.bell](#):
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> From my impression, the standard IFC Psets fall short in terms of carrying the data that a lot of clients requests, so I suspect that you will soon need to support the individual GUIDs on properties, going forward.

This is certainly true. We’ve been discussing this (mostly internally with @klaus.aengenvoort and some other people) since a few years; - as far as I remember we talked about this with @TLiebich in February 2014, also regarding this related topic: [How is a IfcPropertySet related to its IfcPropertySetTemplate? - #2 by stegh](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/how-is-a-ifcpropertyset-related-to-its-ifcpropertysettemplate/243/2)

From my point of view: GUIDs would certainly help.

@jonm also supports this… 😉 [How is a IfcPropertySet related to its IfcPropertySetTemplate? - #4 by stegh](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/how-is-a-ifcpropertyset-related-to-its-ifcpropertysettemplate/243/4)

> [@How is a IfcPropertySet related to its IfcPropertySetTemplate?](https://forums.buildingsmart.org/t/how-is-a-ifcpropertyset-related-to-its-ifcpropertysettemplate/243/3):
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> Klaus seems to be proposing that we add an optional attribute (reference Id) to an ifc property (which could/should be a guid) that would allow identification of the property. I would certainly support this.

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